A response from a friend (and Obama voter) regarding the CNN gotcha video.

John,

The YouTube video you posted on Logpundit of the nervous (and stupid) CNN reporter is a good catch.

I can’t believe that she tried to write the entire crowd off as Fox News right-wingers. What poor reporting.

CNN: 0, Bloggers: 1

I really agree with the angry woman’s implied point: it isn’t so much that I object to federal income taxes, per se, but rather than neither I nor any other citizen has any real say in how they are spent. I would feel a good deal different if there was some real transparency with washington’s finances, starting w/lobbyists and their capitol hill donations. Maybe the ‘net will make things different, though I’m not yet convinced that it will. Certainly, it can, at least in principle…

My biggest wish would be to encourage as many people as possible to have ZERO taxes withheld throughout the year, so that they would have to pay their taxes all in lump sum payments during April.

My response:

Yeah, when the dude had the sign that said, “Republicans suck too” with “Ban the Federal Reserve” underneath it, I’m sure that made the reporter feel small. I also thought that “the ban the fed” stuff would never be shown on any news channel…and it wasn’t, as this is on YouTube.

I looked at the news…the story was hard to find in the NY Times, and non-existent in the money hemorrhaging Boston Globe. I heard NBC was being confrontational as well. Fox had a few stories, but less than I thought. National Review, much the mouthpiece of the GOP, did link that video I showed you, but otherwise the response from them was VERY muted. In other words, no featured articles on the Tea Parties. The editors had a pro-bailout stance when it hit the fan last fall, sounded like a bunch of welfare queens. You could tell William F Buckley, Jr. was long gone at this point. So, I don’t know if they pulled back coverage because of concerns of astroturf (i.e. media fed fake “grassroots”), but I think the more likely explanation is that Fox and National Review don’t want to see anti-bank, anti-fed signs. It’s all about socialism, see. I was a little surprised that the video slipped through the cracks at National Review, but sometimes it happens.

Thing is, Obama didn’t even raise taxes yet…just wait until next year.

I’m sure most protestors pay their taxes in full in April, or pay quarterly. I’ve heard about people who have been waiting for a substantial refund and have been delayed for at least a month, they are worried they won’t get it back.

Populism has long been about the struggle between citizens and the banks, not so much with employers (unionism). Right now the Dems are very beholden to the banks (Chris Dodd as head of banking and commerce, is particularly egregious) but so are the GOP. That’s why the mainstream spin is so ridiculous. At this point nationalism of failed banks (Citibank, Goldman Sachs) isn’t such a bad idea. Pay the bankers what I make, a government employee wage and if they want to make more money let them risk rich people’s extra money, but don’t mess with our pensions. That way if they fail they fail. But if it’s too big to fail, then, like the Hoover Dam, it is property of the US government.

I mean, at this point, could a bunch of Timmy Geithner’s do worse than ruin the economy of the entire world?


Qualifier: OK Free Marketeers, I’m open to suggestions. This is an open forum. Persuade me that I’m wrong.

Update: I don’t have cable. It seems that Fox News TV was saturating the airwaves with Tea Party newscasts, but there were few reports on the site about it. So Fox provided more than ample coverage. I just saw the outrageous video on MSNBC and I have to say they have no class.

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5 thoughts on “Tea Parties and Populism

  • One way to cut taxes is to cut government pensions and reduce the wages of overpaid government empoyees. Just a thought.

  • Sure, whatever. I already don’t have a pension, so why not?

    Harrison, it’s almost like you didn’t read the post at all, which is frustrating. Are you happy that tax money went to private enterprises like Goldman Sachs and Citibank, which after taking the money, now are posting profits and not transparent in the least bit as to where the profits came from? They whined like welfare kings for a bailout, held a gun to our representatives heads, and after we bailed them out without any strings, guess what, they are posting profits and lying about the extent to which the bailout funds, well, bailed them out.

    Is that how you want your tax money spent? We’re not talking about fixing potholes and medicare here Harrison. We’re talking about covering the monumental risks that bankers took at the expense of the housing market, a risk bankers took with our pension funds (well, I don’t have a pension but you get the picture) while lying to us about the risk.

    Harrison, this doesn’t strike you as odd? I pity Barack b/c he is eating a crap sandwich right now, but I think he is adding to the sandwich with his overspending ways. If you look at the financial crisis animation post, you’ll note that spending on this bailout mess has dwarfed the Iraq war and the New Deal and on and on…all to cover the bets of bankers who bet more money on failure (via hedges) than success (via investment).

  • As a medical professional, I well understand the need to fix Medicare. I laugh at this blog because it is very IRRELEVANT. You have yet to offer any solutions to anything other than Bash Barak Obama. You are not an individual with whom I would have an intellegent conversation. Yes, I believe that the bailouts to these finacial institutions were necessary, unfortunately. However greeed, ignorance, and arrogance has gotten us to this positions. Maybe you should come up with positve feedback and people would take you more seriously. I pay a lot of taxes. And yes, I am concerned with the corporate welfare the REPUBLICAN party has endorsed for a long time. These are the same fat pigs at the banks who you want to give more tax cuts. Which way do you want it. The fact is: this President can do nothing right in your eyes.

    I haven’t agreed with anything you said. Thank God for the POLLS. SO yes, I support how this President is handing the fiancial crisis. I support the bailouts that were necessary to keep millions of people and corpations insured throught AIG. I support keeping jobs in American and the American Automobile industry.

    So don’t talk about pot holes that you don’t understand. Yes, it is true that our government has a large unfunded mandate to cover healthcare and pensions for its over paid government employees. I think they should fund their own retirement just like I do. They should also have to pay into social security, just as I am FORCED to pay into this system which we should abandon.

    I also think that people like yourself should understand the insurance industry and how healthcare is funded in this country before you make such shocking statements about tax dollars. I would love to give you a thesis on healthcare, but I will not waste my time as you are only concerned with meaningless RHETORIC and partisan proganda.

    Yes, potholes need to be fixed. Potholes cause large problems when they are left unattended. The housing market was a pothole that turned into a crater. I don’t blame bankers, I blame individuals who purchased homes they could not afford. It is not my responsibility to cover the losses of IDIOTS. No banker gambled with my pension. I saved cash and a lot of it. I am fine. I was not affected by this down turn like others because I live within my means.

    Don’t blame the banks as this problems was caused by many Americans. The banks were just greedy, just like people who don’t want to give up anything to make this country even greater than it is.

    Finally, I don’t agree with much of anything about you. That is the great think about this country. We get to communicate on an WWW system that our tax dollars paid for. I am grateful to pay a few more taxes so that I can live in a world that better now that it was when my great grandparents were just children of recently freed slaves. Write your represenatives. Voice your opinion. Vote for the candidate who most suits your values. But the arrogance you display is just annoying.

    1. There is only one person on this blog, Harrison, who is displaying arrogance:

      I laugh at this blog because it is very IRRELEVANT. You have yet to offer any solutions to anything other than Bash Barak Obama. You are not an individual with whom I would have an intellegent conversation.

      …I haven’t agreed with anything you said.

      …So don’t talk about pot holes that you don’t understand.

      …I also think that people like yourself should understand the insurance industry and how healthcare is funded in this country before you make such shocking statements about tax dollars. I would love to give you a thesis on healthcare, but I will not waste my time as you are only concerned with meaningless RHETORIC and partisan propaganda.

      And WE’RE arrogant?!? Your arrogance is OOZING out of your fingers.

      If this blog is irrelevant, don’t post on it, and certainly don’t post on it if you’re going to project your faults on us.

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